The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves Army

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My Chinese army can't win any battles because their morale sinks faster than that of the French after the Eastern campaign.
What can I do to fix this?

unmerged(84806)

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What can I do to fix this?

Invest in Land Tech. :)

What is their level, and what is your's? Anyway, you might be able to win if you direct the battles to provinces with plains, and use massive cavalry-armies. Hopefully the French armies will be annihilated during the first shock-phase.

likk9922

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Invest in Land Tech. :)

What is their level, and what is your's? Anyway, you might be able to win if you direct the battles to provinces with plains, and use massive cavalry-armies. Hopefully the French armies will be annihilated during the first shock-phase.

He's not battling the French. It was a metaphor. ;)

And yup, land tech investment. Use cavalry early and infantry late.

unmerged(84806)

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Umm, yes. :eek:o With "the Eastern campaign" I thought the French had traveled all the way to China ingame. :D

Other things you can do is to adjust the domestic policies sliders (land, offensive, quality, free subjects) and proclaiming Defender of Faith.

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Thanks guys.

How far over should I put the slider for land tech? It's 1490 and I'm level 3. How can I get it to go up faster?

Emperor_krk

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Thanks guys.

How far over should I put the slider for land tech? It's 1490 and I'm level 3. How can I get it to go up faster?

Remember though that the Chinese technologies are far backwards in comparison to European, they will advance much more slowly due to being in a far worse tech group (oriental, is it called? Don't remember).

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Thanks a ton, guys. It's amazing how great this forum and community is for such an old (though excellent) game.

Another question--How can one succeed, or even survive, as a small European state like Prussia? I don't have enough income to support a military, so when Poland comes a'knockin, I'm forced to call on my allies for support who are lackluster at best.

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Thanks a ton, guys. It's amazing how great this forum and community is for such an old (though excellent) game.

Are you aware of this?

Another question--How can one succeed, or even survive, as a small European state like Prussia? I don't have enough income to support a military, so when Poland comes a'knockin, I'm forced to call on my allies for support who are lackluster at best.

As a small country, try to enter a strong alliance for your protection and have good relations with your allies.

MichaelM

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I find nothing worse than defensive doctrine though. I tried playing Venice with maximum defensive doctrine and kept getting slaughtered in India, despite being a CRT ahead. Even annexing the Aztecs was hard. It sucks for high-attrition continential or colonial warfare but, on the other hand, it is very effective for coastal warfare if you have naval supremacy.

I like to get down to defensive 3 in the 1600s or so for the cheap artillery. But yes, max defensive is generally bad unless you're good enough at avoiding combat (including naval combat).

Incompetent

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they will advance much more slowly due to being in a far worse tech group (oriental, is it called? Don't remember).

China is in the 'china' tech group, a tech group designed specifically to screw over China and stop it taking over the world.

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Sorry, what was I supposed to find with that link? Releasing the source code? How is that relevant to what you quoted? I don't mean to sound rude.

And Prussia starts in a fairly large alliance, most of North Germany including the Knights Templar. Prussia is a vassal of the Knights Temp, so I can't really enter any alliances and all of the nearby territories that are small enough to take are part of my alliance.

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Sorry, what was I supposed to find with that link? Releasing the source code? How is that relevant to what you quoted? I don't mean to sound rude.

It just means this old game has still a strong fanbase and, since Paradox released the source code of the game, some people are even working on a possible sequel with many improvement ideas from the community.

ConjurerDragon

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Gotcha. Thanks.

Still DK how to win with Prussia tbh imo

Historically that is absolutely normal.
Brandenburg and/or Prussia are in the EU2 timespan at the start minor countries and Poland is a big neighbour. Both were at times vassals of Poland. If your allies suck then perhaps you should try to ally with Poland instead? :cool:

Brandenburg at those times usually was never able to afford it´s own rather large army and depended on subsidies from e.g. England to continue to field it´s army.

Only after Brandenburg inherited Prussia and was lucky that Poland was beaten by Sweden did Brandenburg-Prussia become the power that most people expect to see in the game.

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